From: CCCQ President [firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2014 11:51 PM
To: ‘Paul F Greig’
Cc: Ron Chapman ; Jason Plant ; Kristy Ponting ; Adrian Skinner ; Barbara
Rutherford ; Brtan Lewis ; Carolyn Healy ; Peter Holgate; Rob Poulter; Trish
Subject: RE: Sunday Mail article today
I thank you for your email regarding the Sunday Mail article. As you rightly observe, given your own input
that was not reported, I had even less control over how my comments were reported. Perhaps it is
appropriate to pay the same respect to Ms Ponting. The journalist did advise me that he had little control
over the editorial space provided. I suspect there was an attempt by the Courier Mail to seek a rat in the
woodpile that did not exist in the first place.
Our role is to seek the best outcome for group caravanners where ever they choose to stay. You can be
forgiven for not knowing that the CCCQ has had dialogue with, Redlands Regional Council , Logan Regional
Council , Ipswich Regional Council, Scenic Rim Regional Council, Darling downs Regional Council,
Cassowary Coast Regional Council, the Minister for Tourism- Qld, the Minister for Transport-Qld , the
Member for Noosa. and recently the Caravan Parks Assoc Qld. Councils throughout Queensland
demonstrate an awakening as to the potential of RV Tourists passing through their regions and how they
might capture the tourist dollar to be spent in their communities. These meetings have all occurred within
the last twelve months. Input by the CCCQ community will, by default, flow on to RV community
Our role is to acknowledge and respect the players within the RV market place. Each player has a role to
play and should be allowed to market their wares. The consumer will ultimately decide his or her
preference. The CCCQ has, for some years now, worked closely with the Caravan Trades Industry Assoc,
Caravanning Qld, The CMCA, The NACC, and sister State Bodies in an endeavour to capture and magnify
the expectations of the Caravanning/ RV fraternity. We invite and indeed look forward to support from
persons such as yourself who have a positive contribution to offer. Perhaps given positive support by all
players and spectators we may in consultation achieve a worthwhile outcome for all.
Your thoughts are welcome,
0408 887 139
From: Paul F Greig [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Sunday, 15 June 2014 8:57 PM
Subject: Sunday Mail article today
Dear Mr McKernon,
I refer to the article in Brisbane’s Sunday Mail today entitled ‘No Joy at Van Parks’
It was somewhat disappointing to me that earlier this month I was approached by Tom Snowdon, the
journalist named with the article to do an interview regarding my objection to the high cost of caravan
park sites, I was approached as I have been quite vocal on the matter on various internet based caravan
user forums, in particular ‘Grey Nomad’ related.
None of what I had to say in my interview, nor any of the numerous photos taken were used in today’s
It appears now that much of what I did say would be at logger heads with the article. Many caravan park
operators, across Australia have been quite active in having free or low cost camping areas closed, many
rural business who will readily admit that they owe much of their existence to caravan travellers attracted
to free or low cost camp grounds supplied by councils mindful of the benefits to the communities, I would
suspect that some of these business’ would feel quite uneasy by comments attributed to M/s Ponting of
the Caravan Parks Association in today’s article.
I believe it is quite wrong to infer that high site costs can be blamed on this ‘uneven playing field’ M/s
Ponting mentions. Our own experience, as grey nomads, is that there is one main reason for these high
costs, I feel it is not fair to single out electricity, water or wades, these costs are all borne by other
A fact I am a little surprised that you failed to mention, is the propensity of caravan parks to install cabins
at the expense of caravan sites, on many occasions we have observed cabins sitting idle during the ‘non
holiday’ periods, surely the cost of these cabins would have to be recouped, this is in addition to the other
cost you mentioned in the article, the installation of family orientated amenities, and how else but by the
only other source of income a park might have……..from the caravan sites?
Interesting to note that some caravan parks have recently been reported to have removed some cabins in
an attempt to increase their income.
I thing that, either by error or design, the section where you are quoted as saying “….fees to stay at camp
grounds were too expensive” is incorrect, I feel it should have been..’caravan parks’ were too expensive.
And finally, it is my opinion, gleaned from many ‘happy hours’ around the camp fire, grey nomads do not
necessarily want free camp spots, the preference is more to low cost camps where minimal facilities are
supplied, such as picnic tables, fire places etc.
Paul F Greig
The response I received from Mr McKernon is below, note the people he elected to send a copy of my email onto, most are caravan industry related, some of course are quite against even the thought of ‘free camping’
I sent an email to the President of the combined caravan clubs of Queensland Mr Bob McKernon, a copy is below.